sigEd, It is certainly not inconsistent to believe that death and life can both be eternal. What is inconsistent is to claim that God is just, while at the...
This is a joke right? ... -- We stand before these terryfying possibilities - to let go of our security, to open ourselves to the frightening possibility of...
Fred, It could also be said to be disturbing if one were to inappropriately develop a belief system based on a literal hermeneutic that is unwarranted. Could...
sigEd, I didn't just fall off the turnip wagon. :)) manimal ... From: Edward Hassertt To: PretCosmos@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 2:26 AM ...
What about a joint effort between Lloyd and Dan! Anonyomous!!!!!! ... From: Healinglvs@... Date: 07/01/06 11:44:05 To: PretCosmos@yahoogroups.com Subject:...
Who is Dave Green you ask? And how did this poor white boy from the gator infested everglades of Florida make it to the big time? After many years of...
sigEd, Deal with worms! Deal with "unquenchable fire" as used in the O.T. Deal with "eternal fire" (Jude) concerning Sodom and Gomorrah - that fire went out a...
Deal with the fact that the word eternal in the OT is a Hebrew word that means something different than the Greek word used in the NT! The fire went out a...
sig http://www.wrestedscriptures.com/b03hell/matthew25v46.html Hell - Place of Torment Matthew 25:46 "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment." ...
sigEd, With a little investigation into history, you'll find that pagans are forever trying to avoid death into nothingness. As a matter of fact, if you...
manimal, At this point in time I do hold a young earth belief. I have not taken the time to thoroughly study the subject. Blessings, Fred bjbandjdb@......
Greetings Manimal, Like I said you need to read the whole verse very very closely. 1John 3:4 "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth ALSO the law: for sin is...
sigEd, Deal with what Jude said about the "eternal fire" of Sodom and Gomorrah. Souls still burning??? Isn't that sadistic??? God said choose life. The...
Dwayne, I regret that we all sometimes disagree. You have capitalized the word "also." It does not mean "after that," or "because of that." It is used here, in...
Hey Manimal, I appreciate your candor. Not a problem if you do not agree with me. 20 years ago I would not have agreed with me either. Shoot sometimes I still...
Dwayne, In consideration of Romans 5:7( Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die.), I reach...
Hey Fred, I think we need to back up a little bit to where Sam pointed out that you are reading things into the text (eisegesis) of Adam dying the day Adam ate...
Hi Manimal, I understand what you are saying. However, there is a flaw in your final conclusion. You Write: "I now reach the further conclusion that before...
Hey Sam, From my studies Adam is exiled from the The Most Holy Place (the Tree of Life), and the Garden (Holy Place), but still in the Land of Eden (Inner ...
Actually this is only true of a small minority of religions, the Western ones. Eastern religions see nothingness as the ultimate goal. So you "every other...
... Its only sadistic to mealy-mouthed pansies who think of God as some fluff and puff joy factory. God is also a God of wrath! And I did deal with S and G,...
sigEd, You brought up "fire that is never quenched" - now you say that is not a factor in your view. That's what it says, Ed. It doesn't mean that literally,...
sigEd, You said below that the idea of people roasting for eternity simply means that God is not "some puff joy factory, but a God of wrath". I must ask all...
... We are all sinners. Period, None are righteous, not even infants in the womb. The scriptures do not say "all babies below a certain age" are exempt from...
... No I bright up the use of "eternal" I never made the fire a part of my argument. ... That is you begging the question. You claim that it does not mean ...
sigEd, You stake your argument for Calvinism on the fact that "God punishes sinners". You then claim that infants are sinners. Then you claim that God is...
... Not my claim, it is the claim of scripture. All have sinned, not all of a certain age. All fall short of God's glory, not just those your shallow view of...
sigInfants sin????? Hmmmmm..... Anyway, you have refused to address the fact that, according to "Calvinism" sinning is IRRELEVANT. According to Calvinism,...
Dan - are you saying that people can die outside of the grace of Christ (with no need for Him and His atonement for sin) and still be in God's presence? Do the...
